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Impossible, there is no T57 in 1933, first was presented at the Salon of Paris in 1934

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To see : "Les Dossiers complets de l'Automobile ancienne, Toutes les Bugatti"  by René Bellu: photos d'Archives

with the #57103 Stelvio at Salon Paris 1934: 1ère partie picture n°  7, 2ème partie picture n° 13, 16. 
and picture on the Trust #77 on: http://www.bugatti-trust.co.uk/photographs/v/album-18/?g2_page=4 

Registration owner: J.P. Wimille in 1936 ???? (T57 of demonstration of the factory) 

The the first 4 T57 were presented for the first time in 1934:

- T57 Berline > Galibier

- T57 Cabriolet > Stelvio

- T57 Coach > Ventoux


''Salon of Paris in 1934:''

- T57 Roadster Grand Raid

- T57 Stelvio modified (wheels with rim disc)

- T57 Ventoux (unchanged)

- T57 Galibier


''In june 1935:''

- T57 prototype Coupé Atalante (wheels with rays)


''Salon of Paris in 1935:'' 

- T57 prototype Coupé Atalante (2541 NV3) (wheels with rim disc)

- T57 S Aérolithe (57331)

- T57 Stelvio remodified (released aft wheels)


''Salon of London in 1935:'' 

- T57 S Aérolithe (57331)

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The monthly delivery list has an entry from May 1936:
(28. 5.36, engine 297, 57103, Coach, Wimille). What is wrong??

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Vos informations ne sont pas les miennes. Les T57 ont été présentées la première fois au public en 1934, avant le Salon de Paris de la même année. Ce qui doit être précisé: c'est la date de sortie d'usine et non le début de fabrication. 

La polémique concernant le 57103 et 57331 n'est pas nouvelle.
Il y a aucune preuve formelle qu'il y ait eu deux "Aérolithe", ce ne sont que des hypothèses. Il n'est pas possible d'être affirmatif sans preuves. Selon les ouvrages écrits consultés vous ne ferez que des allers retours. Nous ne pouvons prendre parti sur Wiki sans preuves, ce serait poursuivre la polémique entre bugattistes.

En 1935 à Londres ou à Paris: 57103 ou 57331 ? ? ? ?? ???????????.......................: Aucune réponse formelle, toutes contradictoires !

Your information is not mine. T57 were presented the first time at the public in 1934, before the Living room of Paris of the same year. What must be specified: it is the date of exit of factory and not the beginning of manufacture. 

The polemic concerning the 57103 and 57331 is not new. 
There is no formal proof that there were two "Aerolithe", they are only assumptions. It is not possible to be affirmative without evidence. According to consulted written works' you will make only outward journeys returns. We cannot take party on Wiki without evidence, it would be to continue the polemic between bugattists.

In 1935 in London or Paris: 57103 or 57331 ? ? ? ????????????....................:  No formal answer, all contradictory !

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The factory production list of Oct. 1935:
(6.10.35, Coupe, 57331). What is wrong??

The monthly report list of Oct. 1935:
(4.10.35, 57331, Coupe, Salon St.) What is wrong??

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It is not surprising, there are many errors which were shown by stepping on documents of factory. Some were voluntary.